Left to Right; Bill Lusk, Joe Lockwood, Karen Thurman, Joe Longoria.Congrats To All Those Elected!
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NOMOREJZB!
So proud of each of you!! Congratulations on this great win for Milton!
Lockwood is happy, and that is all that matters. But can't blame anyone on what happens now, the people of Milton, over 18,000 registered voters decided to let others (the Crooked Creek subdivision) determine the outcome on Council. This is NOT a great win for Milton. It is a great win for Karen Thurman's father, Lockwood and his developer friends, developers, builders, contractors, lawyers, etc. when and if the economy comes back. But don't count on it with this current administration. In the mean time they can twiddle their fingers on council while we all wait to see where our country is headed, which right now, it's being flushed by the Democratic Congress, Pelosi, Reid, and the Obama Administration. All those developers must just be giddy, but now they have to wait for the economy. Council works for all the people, not just a few, so you are all accountable to all of us, remember that. Your time is short lived.
Karen has a knife in her hand behind the small of Lockwood's back, and the smile to go with it. Joe knows how to keep his enemies closer.
To all of those elected .... don`t forget the 40% that were opposed to your being elected. If you do ever REALLY think about what has always attracted people to Milton , you need to watch what you let slip through your fingers! The beautiful green pastures and trees will NEVER come back after developers bulldoze them away. I understand the city needs $$$ , but keep this in your priorities ! PLEASE !!!!!!!
Good for Crooked Creek voters. What about the other voters in Milton who evidently dd not come out of their habitats to vote. Blame the voters who did not vote. You probably would have had the same outcome. Longoria, Lusk and Thurman. You do not know what the outcome would have been so move on! It happened! And I was a Tina supporter last time but voted for Longoria this time. I am an open road resident so if you are going to put blame out there include me in!!!!!!!!
You people are stupid and a joke.
One council person from Crooked Creek can't make that much of a difference for the neighborhood. In fact, he'd probably have to recuse himself from voting on the gating issue if it ever came up and Tina supported that issue to begin with, so now they've actually lost a vote.
There are still 6 other votes on the council.
You jerks act like Crooked Creek residents don't even deserve their right to vote.
Why not congratulate Tina on all that she has accomplished in her 3 years rather than take cheap shots anonymously on Access Milton?
To the 6:07 poster. The beautiful green trees and pasture were long gone before Milton ever became a city. This was because of the subdivisions that popped up everywhere on every street corner, probably a subdivision that you live in. I have been here for 38 years and have I seen the change. Highway 9 has always been a commercial corridor from Downtown Buckhead to Cumming. It will always be one. I am on the tree preservation committee with 2 developers and they have to replant so many trees for every 1 tree they cut or bulldoze down. They just don't sweep the land and build. So get your facts straight!!!! After this tree preservation document is excepted by the City Council I would suggest you go get a copy and read it for yourself. You will find out you have put your foot in your mouth when you have no idea what you are talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have been working for almost a year on this and we don't need any flack from you by continuing to fault builders for stripping our land!!!!!!!!!!!! They follow all rules just like the homeowners will!!!!!!
write it down -
Crooked Creek gets thier gates and now they all have increased value because of the "status" that comes with it, the corner of Hopewell and Thompson gets developed (Chatham wins), as does the corner of Freemanville and Providence. Kiss the farms goodbye and welcome more traffic and empty strip malls not to mention the sewer systems that will start being approved all over town!! You made your beds now lets see how long you can sleep in them!
GRUBS! all four of them! ready to devour the land!
"They follow all rules just like the homeowners will!!!!!!"
Ever read about the wall, the creek and John Wieland's EPD fine?
Boy we struck a SORE note with Mr. " Reply " didn`t we??????? It`s been a rough past few months , hasn`t it? Well , for your information , I HAVE lived in Milton for 25 years on beautiful , green pastures ,with horses and trees. I have been BORN and RAISED in north Atlanta ( 53 yrs now). So I have seen all of the changes as well . I am just a citizen who hates to see it go ! I am NOT familiar with all your rules and regulations ,so I guess to voice an opinion , requires that I should be? MOST of the developments do require total grazing and then they put in their 6 footers here and there. Wow! How beautiful! No it is not and will NEVER be the same and you " Mr. Reply" know it! Maybe you`re not a "Mr. " but I have a feeling about who you are! Stay on that tree preservation committee and keep your arms wrapped around those trees ! I would LOVE to read document when its ready and so will many others! Meanwhile ... you need to chill a bit.
Crooked Creek did not determine this election. The candidates who won, would have still won even only a few voted at Cogburn woods - where Crooked Creek votes.
So recognize that Milton as a whole determined who they wanted on Council.
Joe (of JK Lockwood Construction Company) should be very proud of the job that he did getting Bill (of Lusk Construction Company), Karen (of many Collins development and constructions companies), and Joe L (of free $600k and gating for Crooked Creek) elected.
Nice job.
It is not clear whether it is going to matter, but a lot of folks won't forget what a fine job you did for us.
When less then 3000 voted out of 18500 registered voters, the majority of voices were not heard, and votes were not made. So if the city gets developed too bad now. They all had a chance to vote and decided to remain silent. So keep your silence when someone wants to develope Birmingham Hwy and Providence into a commercial node for Milton, that's right Triple Crown, right up your alley. That is just one of 3 nodes on Lusk's radar. And of course the others will follow suit in voting with what is proposed, just like Crabapple and Karen's father and the "Foundation" that we will all soon see for sure that is Weiland, JT, Wallace, and Collins. Hope you all enjoy the traffic nightmare that is currently there, it will get worse once they create their disney land there, It's all about the money!! and they are not going to fix the infrastructure before hand either.
The comments about Joe Lockwood, Karen and Bill wanting to pave paradise and put up a parking lot are just so far off base that they don't deserve comment. Remember, too that with Burt Hewitt they have had a 4-3 majority the past 2 years on most issues. If they had wanted to do this, they would have started it already.
I wish some of the posters who are so scared of development would go look at the zoning plans that are available on the City of Milton website.
It would be lovely to have a debate with someone who was informed.
To the 6:48 poster - have you polled the entire citizenry of Milton to know their opinion? The informed majority who CARE voted on Nov 3rd!
A picture of the new fabulous 4. Replacing the previous 4 of Lusk, Thurman, Mohrig and O'Brien.
And by the way, they did start already, Karen and Bill have been at it from conception, and Joe Lockwood and Burt Hewitt switched teams a year and half ago and started voting along Bill and Karen pro sewer extension, high density, and developers. If the economy hadn't sucked you'd of seen much much more come down the pike and get approved. I attend council meetings and see it live.
The citizens of Milton have voiced their opinion on who they want to run the city – for at least the next 4 years. This fact is undeniable. To state that there is a plot to destroy what makes Milton unique is a bit silly. How can these individuals expect to be re-elected if they break their promises and perform inadequately?
In terms of sewer, density and developers, I am concerned about what you are implying. I have looked closely at the Sewer Service Delivery Area. It is the same today as it was when Milton was formed. There has been no extension of this area in the past 3 years. Can you provide examples of where this is not true? Where has this extension occurred?
In terms of density, again, look at the zoning map. Where has it been modified or changed to allow for “high density” development. A good follow-up question on this subject would be “How do we define high density?” Is 5 persons per acre considered high density? Is 15 persons per acre considered high density? There has been a lot of talk about this subject but no one has cared to define what they mean by high density.
Tying density to sewer access is another fallacy. There are septic systems in use in Mississippi and Alabama that do not require a drain field. This is new technology. This technology, if adopted by the state, will take away the requirement for 1 acre per household. If that happens, where will we be in terms of density? Zoning laws must be the standard by which we control density. Anything else is not sustainable.
Finally, you mention developers as if they are all evil. The fact of the matter is that developers are citizens just like you. The largest land owner in Milton is a developer. Shouldn’t developers have the same rights as other citizens? What I think you want to say is that there is such a thing as bad development; in the same way that there is such a thing as good development. We should work with the development community to ensure that we hold them to a higher level of quality and design. We should ensure that the development community believes in and considers the vision that Milton has for itself – one that accentuates our rural character. This is not impossible. You wouldn’t say that a developer who builds a community around an equestrian lifestyle is a bad developer – would you? All we need to do is engage those developers who are interested in Milton and hold them accountable for designing residential and business areas that fit our requirements. If we don’t, they would be free to do what is most effective for their own purposes; purposes that don’t include our vision.
There has to be a better way.
Remember that not all Miltonians live or embrace the equestrian lifestyle! No more horse barn stores!
To the 5:01 poster... We are here to stay. Don't like it? Maybe you shouldn't have moved into an area with such a strong horse community.
Left to right:
Builder, Builder, Developer, Boy Scout lost in the woods.
Can we annex Crooked Creek back to Alpharetta? Maybe we can make a trade for them, we give them CC and they give us Main Street/Canton Street. Maybe Milton can turn that area into City Hall and make something of that down town area for us, it's already got our name on it. Alpharetta has already completely abandoned their plans to revitalize that area.
To JZB and the rest of the sore losers,
The planted comments are pathetic and obvious. Your fiscal ignorance continues to shine through.
Before you chase away Milton's golden goose, perhaps you should look at the property tax revenue that Crooked Creek contributes towards Milton's budget.
The hundreds of Crooked Creek homeowners on <1-acre lots pay far more to the City than your beloved equestrian-centric "farmers" on their trust-protected 100-acre estates.
P.S. If you don't understand all that financial mumbo-jumbo, ask Bernard. He knows all about it and he's got some time on his hands.
I have found that anyone that criticizes others for not understanding finance, doesn't understand finance. I suspect that the last poster is a mid-level manager someplace that thinks they are more than they are, and too much a coward to state their name because everyone would know it.
Having trouble with the math? Maybe Tina can help.
Sure, I'll give you my name, so JZB and pals can smear it on the internet like they did to Joe Longoria and Mike Stevens. They can call me a drunk or a Clinton or a Texan or a bigot or (gasp) a mid-level manager. Now who's the snob?
Really, so the Crooked Creek residents pay more then those that live on 1 + acres of more, interesting. Their homes may be worth 5-800 today, so I seriously doubt they pay more then the large land owners. You guys are so full of yourselves. The land alone that people on large tracts owns costs more then your house and 1/2 acre. There you go again, talking as if people who live on open roads and large tracts of land don't count and mean nothing out here. You are so wrong. How much land is occupied by large land owners in Milton, then go see how much land is occupied by neighborhoods. Oh I get it you have the Liberal mentality where NY, Chicago, and California speak for the entire country, so you think Crooked Creek speaks for all of Milton because of your density.
The only thing coming out of your goose is goose poop.
You're proving my point.
Yes, it's true that the VALUE of the real estate owned by the large, wealthy land owners is worth far more than our subdivision homes. No argument on that.
My point is that these wealthy "farmers" are paying far less than their fair share of property taxes on their trust-protected estates.
And if you're an open roader with a large lot and no fortune to spend on tax lawyers, you're getting screwed too.
If that's the case, I hope for your sake you live on Birmingham or Freemanville Roads so at least you'll get the benefit of their wealth and political influence.
That's certainly not the case for our open road friends on Cogburn Road and Bethany Bend.
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